Monday, March 15, 2010

Those Hateful Christians...

Here is a comment that I left on a blog where they had posted an article out of time magazine that said basically that glenn beck is against Christianity. A lot of the comments said how hateful and stupid Glenn is, and so this is the comment that I put. Ligia wanted me to post it here, so here you have it...

Wow, I'd heard about all these "Beck haters" before but it wasn't until I got my free newsletter from glennbeck.com with the link to this article that I actually saw some of your comments. I just have to ask... are you guys serious? Do all of you "so called Christians" out there who revile Beck realize what you're doing?


I'll bet that most of you agree with him on a lot of the points that he makes. Most of you probably like freedom. Freedom to give when you want to give, freedom to worship God according to your own conscience, freedom for others to do the same, etc. The thing that amazes me is how some people can misinterpret something so badly.


I'll give an example. First, I'm LDS(the same faith as Glenn, and yes, we are a Christian religion), guess who else is, Harry Reid. He gave a talk at BYU several years ago and said that it is easier to be mormon and a democrat than a republican because democrats are charitable. First, let's dispense with this so called distinction of democrats and republicans. We've "progressed" past that because most people realize that the corruption is widespread in both parties and there's really not much of a difference between the two. It's no longer "democrats and republicans", the debate now is between "liberals and conservatives". And somewhere along the way, it all got twisted up to where people think that liberals are the ones who care and are charitable towards all mankind, and conservatives are the rich, greedy, racist haters.


I understand that this is the way that much of society views this but it's so backwards. Benjamin Franklin, who I think most people would agree was a good, charitable man, said that the best thing that we could do for the poor is to make poverty uneasy and uncomfortable. People, by human nature, take the path of least resistance. Of course we all have dreams, but if there's an easier way of hitting those dreams, we'll take it. The problem is that most people are not tenacious. When failure comes, as it ALWAYS does and must, if there is a safety net, we'll fall into it.


Thus, a "welfare society", or what is referred to here as "social justice", is not a Christian doctrine. When he taught the sermon on the mount, he never once advocated someone forcing you to do good, or what I've heard referred to as "legislated righteousness". He taught us to go the extra mile and to be anxiously engaged in helping. He taught us to care for the needy. But more important than all of that, he taught us "be ye therefore perfect". If we are compelled to give, how can we be perfect?

It's precisely that force that makes people feel less charity for the poor. I don't mean charity as monetary, I mean it as the pure love of Christ. This is why Obama gave less than 1% of his income to the poor for years until he started getting into the political scene. That information is found at the heritage foundation. The point is that when government steps over its bounds and gets into the redistribution of wealth, or "social justice", it only produces negative results. Americans are the most generous people on earth, it's been documented that we give more per capita and per average income than any other nation on earth. So if the government would stop getting in the way, let people fail when they need to for their development's sake, and let those who want to give to do so according to their own desires, we would quickly see this country, and this entire world for that matter, change for the better.


That is what Christ taught and what he really wants for us to do. He wants us to be perfect and give according to what we feel is right, not "social justice". He understood how important it is to not control charity, otherwise he wouldn't have ASKED the rich youth to give away all his riches and follow him, he would have FORCED him to do so. Think about it.


One article that I found very enlightening is actually a talk entitled "The Celestial Nature of Self-Relience". It is at this address.


http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=586b0e46d0bdb010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=f318118dd536c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD


Enjoy!!


By the way, the talk is by Marion G. Romney and it's REALLY good. You should read it.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are you serious right now....

Amy said...

Amen! I get more frustrated that our country is already in such an extreme state of debt that the dollar is devalued and yet our government wants to give freebies to people instead of using our tax money to turn our country around and get us OUT or debt!

Anonymous said...

Heck yes he's serious! I thought you were dead on Alex. Cheers! I like your point about liberals vs. conservatives and not republicans vs. democrats.

Alex said...

wow, that's pretty cool that I've gotten an anonymous comment. Does that mean that it's someone from a google search or something?

Stephen said...

Well reasoned and stated, Alex. "Seriously"

Jenni said...

Thanks for the link to the article. It was great!

Anonymous said...

This is David Cragun. I agree with Alex that it does not help our people to give money and food and housing for free. We become better off only when we learn to provide those things for ourself. Granted, nobody produces on their own everything that they consume, but we learn to trade one service we do well for another that somebody else does well (using money as a currency). When a person feels like he/she is not contributing to the overall good with their work, that is demoralizing. Giving out stuff for free just encourages the demoralizing lifestyle to continue. We ALL have something we can give. Instead of issuing a free, demoralizing way of life to those who are down on their luck or not working for any reason or not making enough, we should teach them how to be more valuable to other people so they can trade their services more effectively. We should give them opportunities to serve.

Sorry, Alex. When I began writing I did not intend for this to be this long. But I also feel very strongly about it.

Alex said...

Thanks for the comment David, the longer the better.

Eloisa said...

Well said Alex. The story about the seagulls in Florida is so real. I have experienced this in my own life. We as humans need to provide for our own needs, if not able to do it, you will feel incompetent, this is the first step to get in depression, oh boy when in depression the problem gets worst. We all need to help so everyone with their own capabilities could be givers, we all have been given gifts that we need to share them. We that are able to see the possibilities of using those gifts to produce should share and teach them to the ones that do not have this vision. Walaa!! This is the real way to get out this big problem. Of course hoping that the people will start using and putting in practice what they were taught. Not by feeding the seagulls and making them not able to catch their own food. Alex, thanks for being that good example to my kids. Keep up with the good work. Love, Mommy Eloisa.

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